In Today’s “In Conversation with” we have with us Vivek Agnihotri, not as a film director or a script writer but as an author and a columnist. Vocal about the nexus between an India-wide Maoist terror movement and their supporters in urban centres, Vivek recently launched his book “Urban Naxals”, which caused havoc among pseudo liberals.
What inspired him to write the book and what he thinks about the current scenario of Naxalism? Read this interview to know:
HMP: Vivek, first of congratulations for your book ‘Urban Naxals’.Your Book calls Naxalite movement in India as the world’s largest extreme-left terror movement. Why do you think So?
Vivek: Which other violent revolution has survived for 50 years other than the Naxal movement in India? Which other violent movement has been responsible for as many deaths, rapes and destruction of public property? Kashmir and Jehadi terror is always in the national and international discourse, but Naxal barbaric acts are reported only when more than dozen CRPF jawans are killed and mutilated by the Naxals. In 2016 alone Naxals have been responsible for more than half of the 340 killings in terror attacks. More killings than the Jehadi terror. More jawans have lost lives in the Red Corridor than in the Kargil war. They don’t let the roads build. They destroy schools and hospitals. They extort 11,000 Cr rupees each year, which is used for funding Urban Naxals for anti-state activities. Their written strategic document mentions toppling the Indian state by fighting an armed war in Indian cities. What else do we need to know?
HMP: How do your fight with Urban Naxals started? Have you witnessed any such incident?
Vivek: I was never in politics. When I wanted to release my film ‘Buddha In A Traffic Jam’, I started experiencing resistance. In a very organised manner certain sections started to attack the film to discredit it’s theme. Then JNU refused to show it. In Jadavpur they attacked me physically. My shoulder is not fully recovered as yet.
But what was more dangerous was the sinister politics behind all this. First they question an idea without even knowing it. Then they discredit it or ridicule it and in third stage they start attacking you. They can go to any extent to stop the alternate narrative.
HMP: After talking about Urban Naxals, you have been largely identified as Right Winger, or Pro-govt person, How much do you agree with this?
Vivek: I am neither left wing or right wing. I am ‘India wing’. I gave up my green card and came back to India with lot of hopes. I want India to be recognised for its strengths. I want India to be world’s top 3 countries. Anyone who I believe can help us reach there gets my support. At the moment I support Narendra Modi because he has a vision which is rational and achievable. I am against those who are negative and question everything not because they are interested in knowing better, but their sole objective is to create chaos and confusion. Because I raise my voice against such activists, journalists, Fake feminists and of course, against the Urban Naxals etc. who all are always seen with anti-India narrative. Why is it that when I talk about urban Naxals, all Liberal intellectuals get rattled? Are they the Urban Naxals?
HMP: As per your judgement, whether this extreme-left terror movement has shrunk or increased under PM Modi’s Government & Why?
Vivek: The red Terror in the red corridor is declining sharply. Recently over 50 Naxals were killed. The rate of surrenders has increased. Development is at an unprecedented pace. These are pretty good indicators.
But as a result, Urban Naxalism has increased manifold. With UPA government there wasn’t much of a problem as these Urban Naxals flourished in a nexus with UPA, bureaucracy, media, NGOs etc. Today, they stand exposed. But they are planning a big intellectual ambush before 2019.
HMP: What Government needs to do to break the backbone of this left-terror movement, especially Urban Naxalites?
Vivek: The biggest problem with the devil is that you can’t see it. Similarly, these are invisible people. They are in media, education, law, social service, politics, art, films… in all those spheres which control the narrative. In a democracy, how do you catch them. Asst. professor Saibaba was caught with proofs… with the strategic document… but such Saibabas are everywhere… how does one identify them… they are in the entire system. They should be fought by the citizens like you and me. I am not just preaching, I am doing it very successfully. That’s why they leave no stone unturned to suppress and discredit me.
HMP: How according to you the ‘rebels’ of JNU, Jadavpur , AMU need to be tackled?
Vivek: We have a stale education system. Most of the research scholars get involved in leftist politics as the hold of Naxalism in our academia is extremely strong for the most of the faculty is leftist. There are records of professors of top universities being on the payrolls of KGB and Maoist network.
HMP: As per your view, What path Government need to chose to address the poverty issues between Economic Right , left or balance between them?
Vivek: In this globalized world, poverty can’t be fought with welfare schemes only. The modern system rewards modern skills and ideas. I think a lot of schemes of the current government are aimed at empowering the poor so that he can be self reliant and nit at the mercy of the government. No country can be economically successful with welfare schemes.
HMP: You have talked different standard sets about Freedom of Expression by Liberals -one for themselves and other for ‘Sanghis’, ‘Internet Hindus’, which you had described as ‘Boutique Liberal Activism’: .
Vivek: ‘Boutique Liberal Activism’ is when an activist supports an issue not to solve the issue, but to further his/her brand value. You can see them everywhere. Holding placards for feminism on odd day and Anti-Hindu placards on an even day. No wonder most of them supported Arvind Kejriwal. They are fake. Most illiberal. Most intolerant. A liberal person would listen to the locals of Jammu before passing an unilateral judgement against all Hindus. Such people are not just fake, they are most dangerous. Because they work for Urban Naxalism.
HMP: Do Right Wingers need to be paranoid of Congress coming back to power & starting of their ‘witch-hunting’
Vivek : Congress coming back to power in the leadership of Rahul Gandhi is like expecting Tejasawi Yadav getting a PHD degree.
HMP: Prakash Raj has said that he’s not getting movies since he has started criticizing PM Modi and his policies. How much do you agree with this?
Vivek : LOL.
HMP: By looking at BJP’s manifesto in Karnataka & recent PM Modi’s speeches, BJP has given a subtle hint that the grievances of the cultural right like ‘Temple Control’ will be taken after 2019. Do you think that ruling BJP has been on right path & right pace to address those issues?
Vivek: I don’t think BJP government has done anything to help Hindus. But it hasn’t done anything that hurts Hindus like in UPA’s regime. Which itself is the right thing to do. No appeasement of anyone. In India, temple issues are considered as Hindu issues. Whereas Temple is a community issue. I believe Ayodhya is a cultural issue whereas everyone tries to portray it as a religious issue. I’d be keen to see how Modi handles these issues in coming years.
HMP: You have written some brilliant columns, especially in 2015 in DNA narrating religion in the context of India and endorsed scientific temper. How you practice religion in personal life?
Vivek: I don’t care about jargon and self-label myself as a rationalist or amethyst but I am not ritual inclined. But I love Hinduism. I love India. I am very proud of both. That doesn’t mean I disrespect any other culture. But given the choice, I’d go with the science and rationality. This is where I find Indian liberals funny. They are dogmatic, prejudiced and biased, yet believe that are rationalists.
HMP: You have talked about opposition relying on ‘Dalit-Muslim oppression narrative’ on the road to 2019. How this need to be tackled?
Vivek: I have been saying for years that a lot of funding is pumped to create an Islamic-Dalit block to challenge Modi in 2019. With each election, it becomes more visible. We are going to see some dangerous times. I personally believe that the Dalit conversation must change. My fear is that most of the political parties have started Dalit appeasing and this is not good for the country. Dalits, in 2018, need equality and empowerment not appeasement.
HMP: You have talked about how few students in JNU, Jadavpur doesn’t represent student movement in India .Do you have similar views that few Placard activists don’t represent Bollywood?
Vivek: Most of these placard activists don’t even know what’s written on them. Need I say more.
HMP: What are your views on HMP ?
Vivek: I have learnt from liberals that one must keep questioning. So, according to liberals, you are doing a fantastic job and I have no doubt that soon you will be invited to Jaipur Literature festival.
Note:Thank you Vivek, we wish you a great success and would like to congratulate you for the success of your book Urban Naxals.
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